Rants, raves, and musings about Identity from the Old Man in the Corner, Dave Kearns.

Friday, April 11, 2008

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A herring of a different color

You almost had me, Kim. I read your latest entry and was ready to share that olive branch. Right up to the last paragraphs when you say (about me):

"...He keeps saying I propose 'a directory that gathers and holds ALL the data from ALL your other directories.' Dave, this is just untrue and unhelpful. “ALL” was never the goal - or the practice - of metadirectory, and you know it. The goal was to represent the 'object core' - the attributes shared across many applications and that need therefore to be kept consistent and synchronized if stored in multiple places. Our other goal was to maintain the knowledge about what objects 'were called' in different directories and databases (thus the existence of 'connector space').

Basically, the ”ALL” argument is a red herring..."


Not at all. Let's step back a pace or two, or a posting or two, and think about the reasons for having this meta/virtual directory. Yes, it helps to normalize the data and keep it in sync. But if that were all, than a couple of keyboard monkeys could handle the chore and, at least in the case of normalization, could do it more quickly than a semi-automated process.

But the real reason we want to do this is so that identity data is available to applications. Available to them using a single vocabulary and a single protocol. Not that there can't be multiple vocabularies and protocols, but any one application would only need to use one of each - each application programmer would only need to use the vocabulary and protocol she was most familiar with.

But for this to be effective, the programmer needs to know that any identity data they need is available through this mechanism. And the only way any data can be available is if all data is available. The identity data must be pervasive and ubiquitous - available whenever and wherever you need it.

From the application's point of view, it should appear to be a single silo but in reality, the data will be distributed throughout the fabric of the network both within and without the enterprise, the identity provider or other data store.

The promise of the meta/virtual directory is that it can serve up the current, correct data on demand from wherever it resides. And to do that, it has to aim to provide all identity data.

Now, to forestall some people, let me add that the security of this system is a given- there need to be strict and fine-grained access controls for the data. There need to be well designed mechanisms allowing for whoever controls a bit of data to authorize its release. Without these things the system is useless because no one would use it.

But this systems needs to aim to have available all identity data, every conceivable bit of it. Because without that, the application programmer can't be sure that the bit he needs is there and so will set up alternative storage for the bits that that application needs.

We're not there yet, but we need to go that way.

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Monday, April 07, 2008

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Another one bites the dust

Well, that might be too strong, but another veteran independent Identity vendor has been acquired. M-Tech announced today that Hitachi had acquired a majority interest in the Calgary, Alberta firm.

M-Tech owns a large segment of the provisioning business in Canada, especially government (federal and provincial) provisioning. But beyond provisioning, M-Tech (now officially called Hitachi-ID) offered the full panoply of the Identity suite - password management, authentication and authorization, role management, audit and entitlement, etc. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes Hitachi to digest the acquisition (I don't think it will be very long) as well as how this will change the playing field (especially in Asia) for Sun, IBM and the others in this space. It could get very interesting.

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Friday, March 28, 2008

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Cardspace context UPDATE

Good post today ("No User Context Decisions in your Enterprise?") from Pam Dingle summarizing her panel at Brainshare (which I'm now sorry I missed). Cardspace and other user-centric ID schemes have a definite place in the enterprise, if only for the context-switching that Pamela outlines.

UPDATE: A video of the session ( with Pam Dingle, Patrick Harding, Kim Cameron and Dale Olds) has now been posted at the Bandit Project site.

We'll be exploring this same topic at the European Identity Conference when I host a panel of Dale olds (Bandit Project), Johannes Ernst (OpenID) and Robin Wilton (Liberty Alliance) called "Putting Context in Identity: User-Centric Context." It's an area that will heat up in the near future...

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Thursday, August 16, 2007

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Identity as a service

An interesting post today, from Jonathan Penn at Forrester. For the most part he's quoting his fellow analyst, Andras Cser, but does through in his own two cents worth in agreeing with Cser's definition of Identity as a Service (IDaaS):

"...implementing identity and access management functionality predominantly as Web services in a service oriented architecture within the enterprise. Various line of business applications, policy management applications, and other services then call these IM Web services either autonomously or in an choreographed manner."


I also would like to jump in with a big "+1" for this definition. It's what I was thinking of when I said about Microsoft's CardSpace: "I'm addressing the enterprise market, which needs to pay attention to CardSpace right now. Many of your in-house developers are already using the .Net framework and Microsoft's Visual Studio to create and maintain your in-house apps and services. Handling authentication, though, has been difficult at best. Now a hero has ridden forth."

Software as a service (SaaS) is going to come first to the enterprise, and IDaaS is going to be a major enabler of that technology. And CardSpace (and the associated iCard open source technology) will be the major building block of that foundation.

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